Is ivy poisonous for kunes?

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Fran
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Is ivy poisonous for kunes?

Post by Fran » Wed May 21, 2008 12:40 pm

A new owner has asked me whether their piglets will come to any harm eating the ivy and ivy roots in their field, has anybody any idea?

claire86
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Post by claire86 » Thu May 22, 2008 10:41 am

Hi Fran,

I've done a bit of research myself but can't find any information on the topic, so I've emailed a pig-vet I know to see if I can find out for you :)

Fran
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Post by Fran » Thu May 22, 2008 9:20 pm

thank you very much Claire, much appreciated.

Gary
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Post by Gary » Fri May 23, 2008 5:35 pm

Fran,
I too shared your concern, and researched it.
Three months ago, when both my sows were in pig, I caught them eating Ivy off a tree I'd felled.

Four weeks later they each gave birth to a litter of 9 !
Damn good stuff that Ivy !
The answer is no and they love it.

Gary..

Fran
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Post by Fran » Sun May 25, 2008 5:32 pm

Many thanks for that Gary, and congratulations on your litters!
Fran

claire86
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Post by claire86 » Tue May 27, 2008 5:01 pm

Had a reply back now from my pig vet. She said

"Hi Claire,

No experience of this but suspect it would induce toxic signs. This Vet toxicology text says it affects most species.

Mandy"

The text she was referring to said as follows:

"Signs:

Diarrhea and vomiting occur early.
Followed by excitement, dyspnea.
Fever may occur.
"Convulsions", coma may occur.
Death (rare). "

and that it affects most species.

It seems, according to Gary though, that it doesn't always apply! :lol:

Claire

Fran
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Post by Fran » Tue May 27, 2008 10:22 pm

Thanks Claire and vet friend, Sounds as though it is best avoided with young piglets at least, perhaps older pigs like Gary's are O.K with it.
I'm now interested in what 'dyspnea' means!

Fran

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Post by claire86 » Wed May 28, 2008 1:04 pm

:D dyspnoea means laboured breathing or difficulty in breathing

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