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amyanna
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Lameness

Post by amyanna » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:40 pm

My 7 year old gilt became lame on the front leg 23 rd Nov. On examining her, there was nothing apparantley wrong with her foot - I could press it all around quite hard and the leg was not warmer than the others. I have had the vet out twice - hard to examin a pig, but they could not see anything obvious either, so first visit she had a shot of anti-biotics and anti-inflams and 3 days of oral administration of anti-inflams. She did not improve so has had steroid injection again with no improvement. Have been looking at some of the postings and seen that finadyne paste has been used by one member and seemed to be effective.
Does any else have experience of this? Any other suggestions?
I am in Warwickshire near Alcester - Clare (vet) are you still working in Worcestershire - would love a second opinion as my vets have no more ideas.
Amyanna :(
Anna

claire86
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Re: Lameness

Post by claire86 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:35 am

Hi Anna!

First thing I'll say is I'm not a specialist pig vet - just a mixed practice vet with a hobby-interest in pigs!

Lamenesses can be due to infectious or non-infectious causes.

Infectious causes will often have other symptoms, for example being off food, skin lesions, swellings or having a fever. Does she have any other symptoms?

Non-infectious causes are more likely and include trauma, fractures, muscle injuries, abscesses or arthritis.

Which antibiotics and anti-inflammatories was she given?

Feet: check for penetrating wounds or objects into the foot, smell or swelling between the toes, overgrown toes or swellings above the coronary band
Joints: check for swellings, heat, crepitus (creaking), pain on movement or lack of flexibility
Long bones: check for pain on palpation, crepitus, displacement or wounds
General exam: check temperature, check skin for lesions

Treatment options: trial treatment with different pain relief (ie. OFF LICENSE bute or finadyne) and/or different antibiotics depending on what was used before; further diagnostics eg, joint taps if warranted, x-rays if possible, blood tests

Claire

amyanna
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Re: Lameness

Post by amyanna » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:26 pm

Hi Clare
I examined (and the vet)her foot and it was not warm nor did there appear to be any cuts etc. The first treatments she had were : finadyne and duphaten (got this over the phone so not sure I got it right) and 2nd treatment a week later was : depomedrone and ?voran?
She has never been off her food and still tries to come out with the other two. Although her temperature was not taken, I am fairly certain she hasn't got one and as the onset was sudden I feel it was a sprain/ joint problem. One problem is that I am no longer living at that address so don't see her on a daily basis, but she is being very well looked after by the new people and I still own (and love) her.
The thing that upset me was that the vet has said there will be no option but euthanasia if she does not improve herself by mid Jan but he has not offered any other medication or possibilities, which was why I feel like getting a second opinion from your good self.
amyanna
Anna

claire86
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Re: Lameness

Post by claire86 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:26 pm

If you're certain it is a sprain/strain, then I would be exploring possible oral anti-inflammatories such as finadyne granules, phenylbutazone sachets or even meloxicam oral liquid - all OFF LICENSE in pigs, especially phenylbutazone which MUST NOT enter the food chain. The second lot of injections were steroids so there must be a good gap (unknown duration exactly, but I would say at least 2 weeks) before you use any additional anti-inflammatories or else you could end up giving her a stomach ulcer.

The antibiotic that was used is generally quite good but it doesn't cover mycoplasma which is a common cause of infectious arthritis in pigs - for this I use Tylan.

amyanna
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Re: Lameness

Post by amyanna » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:41 pm

Thank you,Clare. I will contact the vet after Christmas and will see were we go from there.
Incidentally the pain assessment was from 5-7 out of 10. It is a combination of my instinct, the history and the vets suggestion which points towards a strain or joint problem.
amyanna
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claire86
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Re: Lameness

Post by claire86 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:03 pm

Good luck with her :) hope she comes right!

Claire

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